Jay Inslee has tried to make job creation a central theme of his re-election campaign. Unfortunately, since he has done little to create private-sector jobs in his first term, that’s a bit of a stretch.
Now comes a report carried in the Puget Sound Business Journal that points out that in job growth in so-called “‘advanced industries’ — a collection of 50 research, development, science, mathematics, engineering and technology focused industries” – that Washington State ranks 50th!
The report, by the Brookings Institution, underscores a basic problem for Inslee – his desire to grow the size of government, increase taxes, and impose more government regulations is not an approach favored by businesses looking to grow. So, they can choose not to grow here.
And that’s not a good campaign theme for Jay.
tensor says
From the linked story in the Puget Sound Business Journal:
But it’s the aerospace industry’s declines that are dragging the region’s growth numbers down. […] Boeing has cut 4,000 jobs so far this year and more cuts are expected.
If only our state government had given Boeing billions upon billions of dollars in tax breaks, this never would have happened!
Right?
Right.
Pat says
You need to ask that question of the thirty-plus years of democrat lawmakers that doled out the tax breaks like candy.
tensor says
That’s not the question Shift asked:
What did our state get in exchange for $305 million?
According to Boeing, the company spent a whopping $13 billion in our state last year alone. The $13 billion doesn’t even count the 777X composite wing center in Everett that’s opening next month.
According to Shift, it was liberals who wrongly questioned this great policy:
So, instead of working to create an even friendlier competitive environment for job-creating industries like aerospace to grow and flourish in our state, liberals are questioning whether or not Boeing should continue “benefiting” from tax breaks in the future.
So, you’ll have to ask Shift the question why they approved of “…the thirty-plus years of democrat lawmakers that doled out the tax breaks like candy.” Please do let us know the answer Shift gives you.
Pat says
You certainly have cutting and pasting down to a science. Now, if you could just face reality and the truth with the same acumen…NOTE: liberals are finally starting to question the results of their own failed strategies. Hmmm, you’re right, nothing new here other than maybe the liberals realizing they were wrong all along.
tensor says
So, were the tax breaks for Boeing good policy, like Shift has previously claimed, or were those breaks a “failed” strategy? If the latter is true, do you support revoking those tax breaks?
Clay Fitzgerald says
That’s easy to answer… the 777X would have gone somewhere else to be built, the aerospace job loss would be greater than 4,000 and Boeing would NOT have spent $13 billion here with the commiserate loss of revenue to the state far greater than the paltry $305 million in tax breaks to the aerospace industry, overall, in Washington State.
It’s pretty simple the understand the concepts that drive this… except for the simple minded, liberal dolts, tensie.
tensor says
That’s easy to answer…
And yet, so hard to prove.
Disregarding your wild speculation for the utterly pitiable garbage it obviously is (no 777 has ever been built anywhere but at KPAE), we have thousands of job losses happening after the very tax breaks intended to prevent those job losses. That’s as blatant a policy failure as can be imagined — even poor ol’ stupid Pat knew that, which is why he ducked my question entirely — and you can’t even see it right in front of you.
(But then, you’re used to gazing upon obviously contemptible failure and then loudly declaring it to be the world’s greatest success: that reflexive denial of external reality has happened each and every time you’ve ever looked into a mirror.)
Clay Fitzgerald says
Hey, tensie, you’re proof that there’s no cure for stupidity!
The tax breaks were intended for the purpose of encouraging Boeing to have the 777X built in Washington State. There were no conditions tied to that piece of legislation that required a certain level of employment.
You state factually that no 777 has been built elsewhere, but that does NOT preclude Boeing from creating a manufacturing plant in another state with a more business friendly attitude.
Before Boeing built the Everett site, no Boeing passenger jet had been built there either.
tensor says
“There were no conditions tied to that piece of legislation that required a certain level of employment.”
So, the policy was doomed to failure from the start? Are you trying to defend it? Because you’re not doing that, you know.
“You state factually that no 777 has been built elsewhere, but that does NOT preclude Boeing from creating a manufacturing plant in another state with a more business friendly attitude.”
So, billions of dollars in tax breaks with no obligation of any kind is not evidence of a “business-friendly attitude”?
Clay Fitzgerald says
Pay attention, tensie, the enabling legislation was to encourage Boeing to locate the production of the 777X in Washington, which Boeing has done. There was NO requirement that Boeing was to maintain any level of employment here… in fact, the general level of employment across all of Boeing has declined by nearly 3,000 employees. The locations where Boeing employment has not declined or has slightly increased slightly in the U.S. are Alabama, Arizona, Missouri, Pennsylvania, Oklahoma and South Carolina, but out of nearly 160K employment at Boeing has only fallen by less than 3,000 employees.
No0w it’s time for YOU to quit posting garbage on a subject you are so ill-informed of!
tensor says
in fact, the general level of employment across all of Boeing has declined by nearly 3,000 employees.
Um, yes, that’s the point I was making: Boeing reduced employment in Washington state after Gov. Inslee made good-faith deals to preclude such job losses. Why Shift blames Gov. Inslee for Boeing’s bad-faith decision to cast thousands of Washingtonians out of work has yet to be explained. Please get right on it, since Shift seems utterly uninterested in that topic.
Clay Fitzgerald says
You’re not really too bright there, tensie. That decline in Boeing employment was less than 3000 employees across the board in all locations in every state. Total Boeing employment in January of this year was slightly over 159,000; in July, that number had dropped to just under 157,000. That’s less than a 2% decline in employment for Boeing, that’s a very mild fluctuation.
The tax breaks granted in Washington State was to guarantee that the 777X was to be built in Everett and it was NOT tied to employment levels.
You seem to be uninterested in facts… the lazy Jay-bird has done nothing to promote the growth of private sector jobs, his only interest is in the growth of government and public sector unions, like SEIU and AFSCME.
BTW, there was absolutely NO mention of Boeing or the aerospace industry in the Shift article, bub… YOU brought that up!