In their never-ending attempt to try and explain how they blew the presidential election, Democrats are left arguing that the government federal is illegitimate because they won a majority of the votes. As Shift has already highlighted, the liberal argument about Hillary Clinton winning the national vote is built on a false premise, since her entire victory margin comes from a state (California ) that electoral college politics dictated Donald Trump would not campaign in.
Of course, had the electoral college rules been different, the campaigns would have been different.
Recently, Democrats have been trying the same argument about U.S. Senate races, saying that Republicans didn’t really earn a mandate to govern because Democrats won more Senate-race votes across the country. As the Washington Post points out, that is the “most bogus stat of the 2016 election: How Democrats won the Senate popular vote.”
The reality is that, again because California (and thanks to it sharing Washington’s Top-Two primary system) had two Democrats on the general ballot for the U.S. Senate. As the Post points out, “In a normal Democrat-versus-Republican election in California, the Democrat might have gotten 7 million votes and the Republican 4.6 million votes — a margin of 2.4 million votes. In this case, the margin was 11.6 million, a 9-million-or-so vote swing, which basically accounts for Democrats’ entire advantage in the nationwide Senate popular vote.”
Further, in pointing out a basic element of civics to the liberals, the Post wrote “another factor in all of this: Only about two-thirds of the country holds Senate races in any given election, meaning that the lean of the popular vote is very reliant upon which states are up that particular cycle. This year, the two biggest, bluest states in the country — California and New York — both happened to be up. The biggest GOP-leaning state, Texas, was not.”
Certainly we at Shift understand why the Democrats are trying to spin their way out of a bad election – though when the Washington Post is the paper pointing out the liberals are essentially lying, you know it was a really bad election.
Any idea why Jay Inslee skated to such easy re-election?
Any idea why Jay Inslee skated to such easy re-election?
That’s such a stupid question that it doesn’t even deserve an answer. Inslee won King County and didn’t really have to worry about the rest of the state… because, of course, he carries the one thing that gets anyone elected in a statewide election; that’s because of Seattle and King voters vote for the candidate with the ‘D’ following his name.
I see someone hasn’t given up trying to spin his way out of it.
Jay won simply because he has a D behind his name instead of an R. Even you could figure that one out and its not spin. It’s low hanging fruit for most voters to stay with the devil you know and not go with the other guy because of effective negative advertising.
We enacted I-1433 in a landslide (although it’s hard to tell here, due to Shift’s dead silence in the issue). As Port Commissioner, Bill Bryant opposed increasing the minimum wage for Port of Seattle workers in the City of Seatac when voters there raised the minimum wage.
Maybe if he hadn’t opposed a very popular policy, he might have had a chance?
I would have to say YES. When it comes to raising Minimum Wage, its a good news bad news deal and the consequences for some are good and for some not so good. But that is what capitalism is all about. Most businesses will adapt and survive and some won’t. But it shouldn’t take a genius to figure out that there are more employees in the State than employers.
I would have to say YES.
I agree. We voted on policies and positions, not parties and labels.
When it comes to raising Minimum Wage, its a good news bad news deal and the consequences for some are good and for some not so good.
Could you re-write that sentence to make it even more uselessly vague? (Answer: probably not.)
Washington, Oregon, and Idaho have different minimum wages, so it should be pretty easy to tell the effects. Across those three states, overall wealth seems to co-relate with a higher wage, hence the landslide victory for I-1433.
A vague statement is what most politicians aspire to so what ever way it turns it they can say I did or i didn’t vote for THAT.
The wife and I run a Mom and Pop service business across the big ditch of water NW of Seattle. We discovered long ago that if we wanted a better class of employees we had to pay better than minimum wage and it certainly was the way to go. The new law going into effect January 1 isn’t going to break us. Most employers are loath to pay over time but it not a deal breaker for us as we tend to be more seasonal than not. I say this as an example of confirming what you have said about the higher wages of our region.
My main objection to 1433 is that I don’t like the method used to force the issue. My own personal preference is to reward the worker who learns my craft and then makes themselves valuable to me so i will pay them more money. I don’t like giving the higher wage to a new comer who hasn’t learned that job that we have to teach them to do.
A vague statement is what most politicians aspire to so what ever way it turns it they can say I did or i didn’t vote for THAT.
Commisioner Bryant didn’t make a “vague statement”; he tried everything he could to stop anyone working on the grounds of the Port of Seattle from receiving Seatac’s $15/hour minimum wage, including by arguing both sides of the issue in turn: first, that the Port lacked the authority to enforce such a law, and then, after that argument lost, his second try was to claim that the Port alone had the authority to do so.
Little wonder the same voters who had first elected him to the Port then rejected him in such numbers as to cost him the Governor’s office.
“We voted on policies and positions, not parties and labels”
What a joke. “We” (you King County Democrats) voted for the (D) after the name. You bought the lies you were spoon-fed, hence the landslide victory for the cost of living increase (I-1433)
We” (you King County Democrats) voted for the (D) after the name.
Bill Bryant was twice elected Commissioner for the Port of Seattle. Tell us, O great geographic genius, which is the one and only county in the state where the citizens are eligible to vote for Commissioners to the Port of Seattle? (HINT: this question refers to the actual, real state of Washington, which has thirty-nine counties, not the imaginary, fake state of Washington which has only thirty-eight counties.)
Wow, comrade, that may be your personal best. After going wildly off-topic bringing Greenie in on the FIRST comment in a thread about national elections, you go even further off-topic with Bill Bryant. No doubt this gyration hoodwinked your fellow Democrats, though.
You King County Democrats only care about policies and positions that are followed by a (D)
Cite one, just one, example where Shift refers to their “wholly imaginary, totally fake state of Washington, which has only thirty-eight counties”. It’s right there with “I don’t know, Shift seems to believe he had something to do with writing the standard” after you brought that topic into the thread. You do that often, comrade Democrat and it never works.
…you go even further off-topic with Bill Bryant.
Yes, the topic of Bill Bryant getting elected is totally unrelated to the topic of Bill Bryant’s candidacy. Even by your miserable standards, that was a pitiably weak effort at a dodge, comrade.
Now, back to reality, political genius: voters in which county twice elected Bill Bryant (R) to the Port of Seattle Commission?
“Yes, the topic of Bill Bryant getting elected is totally unrelated to the topic of Bill Bryant’s candidacy”
Which is, not co-incidentally, is also totally unrelated to the topic of the article and thread you’re anonymously commenting on. In fact, it’s just another example of you failing at changing the subject from your Democrat’s pathetic performance nationwide. Nobody wants to be the turd in the punchbowl (D).
“Now, back to reality, political genius: voters in which county twice elected Bill Bryant (R) to the Port of Seattle Commission?”
Why stop at King County voters electing Seattle Port Commissioner Bill Bryant (R)? Why not include King County Prosecuting Attorney Dan Satterberg (R) or King County Councilman Reagan Dunn (R)? The fact of Bill Bryant (R) getting elected somehow proves how bi-partisan you King County Democrats are is a fairy tale. Is that the best you have?
Now, back to reality, political genius: voters in which county twice elected Greenie as their Governor against the will of the other 38 counties in Washington combined?
The fact of Bill Bryant (R) getting elected somehow proves how bi-partisan you King County Democrats are is a fairy tale. Is that the best you have?
Yes, Biff, the actual results of real voters in King County making real choices in real elections contradicts your fairy tale of King County voters always voting for Democrats. King County’s voters have been electing Republicans for decades. You’ll have to come up with some other reason(s) for Bill Bryant not getting enough votes for governor from the very same voters who twice gave him majorities for Port Commissioner.
As for “the other 38 counties,” you seem not to care that Pierce, Snohomish, and other counties gave majorities to Inslee. Why should their will be subordinated to the voters in other counties? (You see, we can play your stupid game forever, and it won’t change anything.)
Yes, we can see that, too.
King County. More accurately, high-density, low information, government subsidized voters…
…government subsidized voters…
Nope. King County’s voters subsidize voters in the the rest of the state, to the tune of $2.4 billion per year.
Thanks for playing.
That D behind the name didn’t matter in the “CAPITAL COUNTY” known as Thurston County. Two Democrats ran for Thurston County Commissioners and lost. Now Thurston County as three Commissioners with no Republican or Democratic Party affiliation. Times are changing and so is following the PDC rules in campaign contributions. Lookes like the WA AG is going after a bunch of D’s this year for possible campaign contribution violations per the RCW.