At least one state lawmaker agrees with the state Supreme Court’s McCleary decision-driven $100,000 per day fine on the state. Democrat state Rep. Jim Moeller admitted that, while the court’s fine—which adds up to $15 million by the time the next legislative session begins—“stings” and “means some significant cash,” he agrees with it.
Moeller stated, “I think it’s appropriate. The court order should not go ignored.”
Though, apparently, Moeller agrees with the court, he doesn’t believe Jay Inslee will call lawmakers back to Olympia for the special session the court wants to see. That scenario would mean legislators could not fundraise for their re-election campaigns—and a special session would especially harm Democrat State Representative Carol Gregory who has a special election in the 30th Legislative District this November. Via the Columbian,
“‘[Legislators are] all busy raising money, so I suspect that $15 million bucks will not register much to them, if it’s all going to education,’ Moeller said. ‘Besides that, we’ll have to come to some sort of agreement with the Republicans.’”
What kind of “agreement” does Moeller want/expect to come to? Well, he isn’t entirely sure. But, like most Democrats, even though he doesn’t quite understand all the problems—including addressing the reliance of school districts on local levies—he knows the solution is a state income tax.
Moeller’s eagerness to champion a state income tax as the solution to the court’s fine should come as no surprise—a similar situation in New Jersey prompted hasty action and led to the state’s adoption of an income tax in 1976. Moeller and his fellow Democrats have attempted to sneak in their party’s “guiding principle” for years, and the court’s most recent order affords them yet another opportunity to try again.
KIRO Radio’s Dori Monson recently said he believes the court’s order is “a ‘backdoor’ attempt to impose a state income tax,” something the court has “no right to do.”
If it’s the court’s “backdoor” attempt, then Democrats appear all too willing to kick that door open.
color me shocked!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME
I loathe Jim Moeller…and I’m his constituent.
There is a pattern here. 1st take your guns then tax you into submission to their dictatorship communist regime. They are taxing us now for programs they might want at a later date. We can and will stop this attempt to over through America. When we do, every Politian that broke their oaths will be held accountable to the fullest extent of the COMMON LAW. Present and previous.
Who took your guns? Nobody took mine.
They haven’t taken them, yet.
And no actual sign that they ever will. Just mindless conjecture from CONservatives.
Bigit, and of course, you are the smartest person out there. You know all. You are nothing but mindless conjecture.
If you would stop listening to people who pretend to be mind readers (we know that any day now, Obama is coming for our guns) you would not sound so foolish. I am sure you will find a way to twist what President Obama *actually* did (allow loaded weapons in national parks, and unloaded weapons in luggage on Amtrak) into something, something, gun grabbing. There is no possible way to confiscate 300 million firearms from an unwilling populace. Period. If you believe otherwise, please explain. Show your work.
There are no Democratic leaders who have even suggested such a confiscation. All such mentions come from the fevered minds of conservative talking heads spewing mindless blather. All it takes to prove me wrong, is a verifiable quote. What’s that you say? You can’t find it right now, but you know you heard it? I thought so.
Not too bright, are you? Please, for the love of all that is good and holy, stop listening to Russian controlled Trump and Faux News. No one wants to ‘take your guns’. There is no reason, unless you plan on going on a murder spree, for anyone to have a military grade weapon. Not to mention, the 50+ people murdered in Orlando just for being gay would still be alive today if their murderer, who COULDN’T GET ON A AIRPLANE BECAUSE HE’S ON THE FBI’S WATCH LIST wasn’t able to walk into any gun shop and buy a weapon or five. If we had better laws, all the children murdered in Newtown would still be alive. All the people murdered in Aurora, Colorado during the opening of the Dark Knight would still be alive. People who have a history of mental instability would not have easy access to weapons. People who are on Federal no-fly lists would not have easy access to weapons. But you and your ilk are too thick-headed to bother to actually listen to what is being said.
If people would just read their Constitution and read all of the explanation and concerns within the Federalist Papers, we would not be mentioning anything to do with gun control.
It is interesting to note that my great-grandfather carried his rifle to school, as did many boys, and there were no mass shootings. The lack of morals is the real killer here.
As for a state income tax, we need our legislators to go through each state program and show us the constitutional authority that allows them to run them. Cut every non-mandated program, and they could lower all taxes, since their expenditures would disappear. Our Congress needs to do the same, AFTER reading the 10th Amendment. Sick of government growth, for the sake of votes.
A rifle =/= an AK-47. You’re comparing apples to oranges here. That’s like saying a lion is exactly like an house cat. They’re not. I’ve read both of those, more than once, and I still say that no one, unless they want to go on a murderous rampage, needs to have military grade weapons. I also say anyone who cannot get on an airplane because they’re on a terrorist watch list doesn’t need to have access to weapons, nor does someone who is known to be mentally unstable.
I’m sorry, but please tell me how having a plethora of military grade weapons in one’s home equals a well-regulated militia. Not armed, regulated. See, that’s where gun nutters get themselves confused. They convince themselves it says ‘well-armed militia’ when it’s ‘well-regulated’ militia. they deliberately ignore the first half of the second amendment (something it seems you’ve done as well) and only look at the last six words ‘right to keep and bear arms’.
As for your claim that the state doesn’t have constitutional authority to run their own programs, come again? What reality are you living in? ‘Non-mandated’ programs such as what, pray tell? I’m guessing you want them to cut out assistance to the most vulnerable. Instead of cutting taxes, why not make the elitists pay their fair share instead of giving them so many tax breaks they pay a pittance? Oh, right, because it’s easier to take from the poor.
Bull crap they don’t. You yourself want to take people’s guns, at least those that you do not approve of. The 2nd Amendment does not give you the right to choose what people need. By the way, semi automatic is not the same a s a military assault rifle.
Also, radical changes are seldom done in one fell swoop. Here is how it works. Gun control is increased. Step two, there is no reduction of murders because law abiding people having firearms is not why we have gun murders. Then, your kind decides we did not do enough the first go around and demand more tightening. It happens. There is no effect on lessening gun murder rates and your ilk demand more. It goes, unless your ilk is checked, with the outlawing of guns and there are places where guns are all but outlawed.
QUEEN you’re a fool. You MUST live in Seattle!
Thanks SHIFT! Call Inslee’s office to protest him skipping this special session to protect Democratic Representative Carol Gregory. (360) 902-4111. I’d call this a $15M campaign contribution using our money if he does such. I’d also say Inslee’s using special sessions to gain political advantage. The last three? To TRY make Republicans look bad. This one? To protect a fellow Democrat. Can’t say that’s not politics.
Where does this “fine” go? Doesn’t it just go back into the state coffers?
I should try fining myself. Sounds like a good way to generate some cash. I take money from me. Who can’t see the logic in that?
Surely we can trust our government officials to not over-tax us, and to use our money wisely and efficiently, right?
no the solution is to cut spending. Why should the people keep funding the government who dont know how to handle money? the easy solution is to just keep funding them and let them waste the money. The government needs to live on a tight budget, just as we all have to do. Its easy to run the state when you can spend and simply ask/ or require more. Wish I could run my household like that!
Then all the crosswalks could be painted with rainbows.
Here’s an idea…take all the money these “legislators” have raised for their uocoming elections & for their party and pay off the court-ordered education funding.
Tax and spend. Been the democrats Standard Operating Procedure. Shove that Income tax idea where the sun don’t shine.
*rolls eyes* It’s better to take the money and put it where it needs to be than to give massive tax breaks to the wealthy elite and pushing the burden on the ones who can’t afford it, which is the Repugnician MO and has been for decades. Where, pray tell, do you think the money to improve schools, roads, and infrastructure will come from if not taxes? What, you think it grows on trees? Or are you one of the elite who is oh so scared about losing money you throw away on frivolous things? Or are you one of the snobs who thinks the best way to fix things is to strip money from those who are most at risk, the elderly and the poor? I’ll bet you’re all for eradicating Social Security and public assistance programs like TANF (Temporary Aid for Needy Families, the cash assistance people on welfare get) and Food Stamps? Because let’s take food from hungry children, right? They don’t deserve to eat if their parents can’t find a job paying them 30 bucks an hour, right?
Roads and infrastructure is a Constitutionally mandated state expense. Education is not mandated federally, which is why the Dept of Education needs to be shut down. Education IS mandated in our state constitution, and needs to be funded.
If you were to read both documents, you could write a short list of mandated expenditures by each level of government. It is a very short list.
The federal and state constitutions are all Republican Constitutions. This protects you from democracy. Basically, the majority can’t enforce legislation that denys any single individual, their life, liberty, or property. Pretty powerful, but you already knew these facts, since they teach this stuff in the 7th grade.
Wow. So you have selective reading, I see. If there are no taxes then there is no money coming from the government to pay for roads and infrastructure. And I’m sorry, but not all of that is federally mandated. State roads and rural roads are only state funded. The only roads funded by the federal government are, wait for it, the interstates. Do you know why the interstates were built? So that, in times of war, they could be closed off to civilians and military vehicles and personnel can be transported from one point to another faster.
Yes, shut down the only agency in charge of funding public education. I’m betting you’re in the pocket of a charter school that deliberately limits education access to the poor.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but when the Constitution was drafted the ‘republican’s’ didn’t exist. How, pray tell, can a non-existent entity be responsible for the drafting of it? I mean, after all, the Republican party was founded in 1854, the Constitution was signed in 1787, 67 years BEFORE ‘Republican’ became a thing.
Not to mention the fact that the Republican party, as we know it today, is what was once the ‘Democratic’ party and vice versa, in terms of their platforms. But I’m sure someone claiming to be oh-so-knowledgeable already knew that and you just happened to forget, right?
I’m not doing your work for you. You want to tout ‘both documents’ (I’m assuming you’re referring to your other comment to me) and talk about making lists, do it yourself.
Obviously, your education is lacking. By saying we have a Republican Constitution, it means that our Constitution formed a “republic”, to avoud the tryanny of a Democracy. Our founders did this to eliminate “mob rule”. It has nothing to do with political party titles, excepr that Democrats support a move to the dreaded democracy, and Republicans generally fight to uphold the republic.
Under our Constitution, my individual rights are superior to the “desires” of the majority. True personal liberty, which you should celebrate!
As for the Dept of Education, it is NOT a federal responsibility, but it is a state responsibility. This federal department burns $2,500 per student, developung schemes like Goals 2000, Outcome Based Education, and No Child Left Behind. I won’t. Even go into the food program rules. They need to be disestablished and the money returned to the schools, where it is needed. Before President Carter, it didn’t exist and we received a spectacular. Education.
Aw, cute, the internet troll thinks he’s so big and bad he throws out ad homs to avoid admitting that he screwed up. You stated it was Republican, which is a political entity that was not created until nearly three quarters of a century after the Constitution was signed. But go on and keep backpedaling, using red herrings, ad homs, and flames because that’s the only way trolls can survive.
Again, sorry to have to burst your bubble, but the Constitution was created because the founding fathers believe in democracy, a system of government that is, wait for it, a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible
members of a state, typically through elected representatives. Since, you know, the colonies weren’t being represented in England, and the wants and desires of the colonists were being ignored. Someone must have slept through U.S. History all through school since you are clueless about that.
Oh, I just LOVE that you brought up No Child Left Behind, a program created by, wait for it, A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT. Bush created that debacle, and since, you know, every state was required to follow it, Education is a federal thing. however, they have loosened their strangle hold to allow Repugniciuans to put in charter schools that alienate those living in impoverished areas because they cannot afford the thousands of dollars it costs to attend such schools.
Turn off Faux News and stop listening to Trump and his ilk, or remain in ignorance, your choice.
MY GOD! You simply must be Trolling!
The United States was founded as a Constitutional Republic. This is neither a democracy or a “pure democracy. It is a Constitutional Republic which utilizes certain democratic processes to function. The Founders did that specifically because they loathed democracy as a form of governance. This is a Republican form of government and that term is only disused today because it is too often necessary to explain the differences to ignorant people. It still, in no way, means anyone but *you* “screwed up”.
The rest of your babbling simply shows how utterly ignorant of the subject you are, and how little grasp you have of the very things you chose to quote. Truly, thought processes like yours are poison to the minds of thinking people everywhere.
Queen_Mercury: I’m sorry you are so sour! Where is the pickle located?? Perhaps you should take a break and extract it. This discussion reminds me ever so much as a 2nd grade school yard verbal taunting session. Maybe everyone needs a cool drink, too? Sheesh.
If anyone looks at the facts, they will find that the schools are already ‘fully funded’, which hasn’t been defined because nobody knows what it means. The real problem is the massive layering if bureaucracy and ‘big titles’ so people can be paid more. Only 65% of the money makes it to the public school classroom, where the real action occurs, compared to 90-95% in private and parochial schools. The System is broken. Fix the System and the money will magically appear because it is already there. We do not need more taxes, we need Systems Change, big time.
Actually the government can take your property. In the state of Washington if you are over 55 and own property then become so sick you can’t work, become low income and apply for medical assistance the state takes your property. They are patient, they wait for you and you spouse to die. Oh wait, you spend most of your life paying for the assistance programs but if you try to use them late in life the state wants you valuables.
Are you kidding me, we are one of the highest taxed states already. Please educate yourself.
Nice try Queen. Right out of the Democrat talking points. The hungry children used to be fed by their parents who had jobs before government “save the planet” regulation and taxation drove them from the state and country. You Democrats beat the same drum decade after decade and nothing changes except taxes keep going up. Time for a change of leadership.
No QUEEN we just want those kids for child piano. Sheeeeeeet!
If you believe that the Republicans are the ones for all the tax breaks in this state, you truly do not have any clue whom has been leading the State of Washington for the last thirty years when all these tax breaks were created: that would be the Democrats and it is there MO to create these things and then blame everyone else. And those are the facts in the State of Washington..
How about we cut safety net programs back to just that. Not sit home and get paid. I notice even at the federal level the Democrats always threaten programs of tax payers and working folk, but never social programs I.e., food stamps, tanf, welfare cash. But always Social Security, medicare and other things working people pay or paid for.
Where would you draw the line on taxes? Are there any programs that you approve of. If we disagree on issues and where we spend our money we have the vote to help us make the decisions that have to be made. We do want a civil society and I believe we all have a responsibility to do our part. We disagree on many things but do we really have to be insulting to each other. How would you have us decide what the government’s role in our lives is if not the way we do it now.
Washington State is number one with the worst taxes on averager earners.
REGRESSIVE TAXES HURT US AVERAGE, SENIORS, STUDENTS, AND LESS THAN LIVING WAGE EARNERS THE MOST. IF WE INSTITUTED AN INCOME TAX OUR TAXES WOULD GO DOWN BECAUSE THE STATE WOULD COLLECT FROM THE ULTRA MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES AND HAVE NO NEED TO USE REGRESSIVE FLAT SALES TAXES AND UNFAIR PROPERTY TAXES. WE WOULD HAVE THE MONEY TO IMPROVE OUR CRUMBLING ROADS, GET RID OF NICKEL AND DIMING US ON TABS AND TOLLS. WHAT A DUMB WAY TO GET THE MONEY WE NEED LETTING THE RICH OFF THE HOOK. I GUESS PEOPLE DON’T UNDERSTAND SIMPLE MATH IN THIS STATE.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2015/02/15/247-wall-st-worst-taxes-average-earners/23361553/
States with the worst taxes on average earners
What world do you live in. You really think that they are going to lower taxes on other things? Democrats never lower taxes. I lived in Arizona and I didn’t make a lot at that time. I still had to pay taxes. State income taxes don’t have the deductions and stuff federal taxes do. The ones who get hurt with the state taxes are the middle class. It would be money on top of what we pay now.
Which is why there needs to be tax reform to push the higher taxes on those who pay a pittance, but nooo that seems to be to difficult for all you naysayers to grasp. Instead of fighting tax reform, start pushing it and start demanding our politicians do the same.
Do you really think that once they get their filthy hands on another tax (an income tax) that they will suddenly “stop nickel and diming us” on the other taxes? You seem to not have looked at the history of this state. They NEVER drop taxes if they can avoid it. Look at the State B&O (business and operations) tax which was a “Stop Gap” tax during world war II, which is a gross tax, which means you pay for every cent brought in, even if you spend more than you bring in. Not only is it completely unfair that the small businesses in this state have to bear everyone else’s burden, but the big players are specifically exempted from these taxes. Boeing is exempted. Microsoft is exempted. The state knows that if they imposed that tax on the large businesses, they would just leave the state and set up shop in a different state with friendlier tax structure. Do they care about small businesses, which accounts for 80% of all revenue in the US? Nope. They can push around the small businesses because individually they could care less if we go out of business. They view the residents of this state as resources, not people. And the average person here seems to have the misguided idea that all small business owners are rich pigs living high on the hog at other people’s expense. That is a view encouraged and certainly not corrected by the state or federal government. Small business owners generally work more hours for less overall pay than your average Boeing or Microsoft management employee.
Think of what would happen if all small businesses decided to close up shop and just go to work for large corporations. Suddenly, there would be just a few large corps calling all the shots. That fits in neatly with the regressive left’s plan to switch us over to a total communist society. No private ownership. If you do, we will punish you. Step out of line and we punish you.
People here are sheep, and the state government is just waiting to add more taxes to an already overburdened group of people.
They will never give up one tax if they get another one. You are fooling yourself if you think they would do that.
Someone that can actually put a sentence together and had critical thinking skills. Be careful they don’t like free thinkers in this state or country.
*snorts* Please, sorry, but no. That would be Tennessee, with it’s federal minimum wage of 7.25, which most employers cling to like their lives depend on it, and one of the highest state taxes of almost 10% while having a cost of living that is comparable to MANY parts of Washington state. I should know, I just moved from there a month ago. A crappy two bedroom apartment, if you’re lucky, costs 500 a month. Food costs more, a gallon of STORE BRAND milk is 3.50-3.99 in Tennessee, it’s less in Washington. I can get nearly double in food here for $100 than what I did in Tennessee for the same price, even with using ‘special club price’ items. A decent 2 bedroom apartment in Tennessee will run you 650-700 a month, same as many areas in Washington. Yet Tennessee REFUSES to increase it’s minimum wage. The poverty rate in Washington state, meaning the percentage of residents who live at or below the poverty level, is 13.2% whereas in Tennessee, that number is 18.2%. Now, let’s look at the actual numbers, shall we? People in poverty by household income (in thousands): Washington: 913 (so 913,000). Tennessee: 1,165 (so 1,165,000). So 252,000 more people in Tennessee are living in poverty than there are in Washington state. Washington state also provides far better care under medicaid than Tennessee, where there are still over 100,000 Tenesseeans without medical insurance because the Repugnicians refused to accept federal money to cover expanding insurance to the needy. If you do not have minor children, or you are not the primary guardian of said children, you don’t get insurance. And if you have insurance, you can be cut off, without notice, at any time, for no reason at all, Or if you have it because you have children, you lose it upon your child’s 20th birthday. It used to be 21st. Children are also dropped for no reason whatsoever, even though they, along with the elderly, are most vulnerable.
The issue isn’t ‘waaah high taxes’, the issue is the Repugnicians REFUSING to tax the ones who need to be paying the higher tax rate. Ya know, the wealthy elite who pay a pittance? The Repugnicians are in the pocket of the 1%’ers so OF COURSE they’re going to fight any kind of tax reform, because Democrats want the elite to pay their share instead of a pittance, they want to eradicate all the tax breaks the elite get so they can continue to amass wealth while screwing the rest of us.
You moved here from Tennessee a month ago, to what? Take advantage of the great TAX funded programs here in Washington? The programs you’re bitching that we don’t want to fund? Many of which were created by Republicans in the first place. Sounds like you have a Ph.D. in welfare. You need to realize through your bile that social injustice is created by people of all political persuasions nowadays. Democrats have screwed as many people in this country as Republicans. FYI-it will a cold day in Hell before we have a state income tax in Washington State. We’ve voted it down numerous times already. The key is to better manage the money they are already getting. Do you know that in some states the legislature only meets every two years? For a few months. These jokers in WA have created an all year, every year, full time job for themselves by not doing their job. We are the sixth highest taxed state in the nation. So the money is there, they need to sharpen their pencils and put it to better use. If a special session will save us $15 million dollars then the legislators need to get their -ss back to work and get busy. The people’s work comes before anything they need to do.
Not sure how a progressive tax fulfills the Constitutional guarantee of “equal protection under the law”. OMG, it doesn’t. Doesn’t anyone read their Constitution? They teach this stuff in the 7th grade, so you probably already knew this. SMH
The sate of Washington does in no way need a state income tax. Our reprsentives need a pay cut to pay for thier screw up. The only reason they would want a state income tax is to give them selves another raise. To pay for not living in our state but to pay for them to live in Washington DC.
There is a problem here, I strongly support a state income tax. I am sick and tired of having to pay a sky high regressive sales tax and getting nothing to show for it. The state has massive infrastructure needs, and if you think I am going to sit still for another sales tax increase you have another thing coming. Why not an income tax, it is not like you or I will actually have to pay the thing, it is strictly for people with money.
They have added lotteries and other taxes that were to pay for education. Where did all that money go? And what will guarantee a state income tax would pay for funding schools and not some other way to syphon funds for a pet project of a few of the Congress men/women or senators. Or another pay raise for themselves. I really do not trust that our elected officials can get this job done the way it was footed into law several years ago!
Challenging times for sure.
“Though, apparently, Moeller agrees with the court, he doesn’t believe Jay Inslee will call lawmakers back to Olympia for the special session the court wants to see. That scenario would mean legislators could not fundraise for their re-election campaigns—and a special session would especially harm Democrat State Representative Carol Gregory who has a special election in the 30th Legislative District this November. Via the Columbian,”
That is what pisses me off to the highest level of pissidity. Why do legislators think they are entitled to all the time they want to campaign for crying out loud, when there is work to be done? If legislators would cut the bull crap politics, and get down to doing what benefits the people of this state, rather than themselves, we wouldn’t be in this predicament. I, for one, am sick and tired of the partisan politics that ignore our future…aka our kids in K-12.
Jay Inslee, as Govenor I expect you to act on behalf of the citizens of this state, not on behalf of some of the citizens who just happen to be legislators fundraising and campaigning. Bring them back and make them stay til they accomplish what the courts have ordered them to do. Be a leader, not a politician. Same goes for you Republicans. Take care of business, then we can see who is worthy of our votes.
I believe that the solution, in part, is to amend the Washington State Constitution, making clear that deciding what constitutes fully funding schools is purely a political decision. We have the absurdity in that the State is required to “fully” fund education, but many of the costs, such as salaries, are controlled on the local level. The problem we have in this state is a state Supreme Court that has decided that it gets to dictate to the other branches of government how they have to conduct their business.
Quote above: ” $100,000 per day fine on the state. Democrat state Rep. Jim Moeller admitted that, while the court’s fine—which adds up to $15 million by the time the next legislative session begins”. Please excuse my ignorance but who pays that fine? Assuming it is paid, to whom is it paid and from where?
I understand that funding the schools is the responsibility of the Legislation not the courts. That being the case what we have is political theater.
Oh Brother, the mindless left wing LOONS on this cracks me up. This state has had numerous elections regarding a State Income Tax and each & every time it was DEFEATED. All this is is an end run AROUND the will of the people.
If passed I’ll be forced along with everyone else to pay amount other boondoggles Seattle’s desire to attract as many homeless druggies to feed & house them. Seattle if that’s your desire, fine, pass a city income tax & leave us the hell out of it.
They have no problem sending our hard earned taxes.
income tax isn’t going to help either. Millennials earn so little they use up all the feds eic credits and cash to boot. the effort to collect is to costly compared to the income it will generate.
boomers are just about all done working by the time you set up a network collect income tax ,,,all you will have is gen-x and millennials. They all earn less than 20-30k. Millennials around 10-16k.
best thing you can do is establish a working wage so people spend more so you can have more revenue.
So who does the “fine” get paid to ? Where does it go ? Sorry but the State can’t fine the state . And the Supreme Court can’take force the legislature to budget more than it wants to .
I’ve lived in Washington my whole life and I’m here to tell you an income tax on top. Of a sales tax on top of school levies on top of the gas tax that was implemented in 2010 is way out of hand. Just to inform the unaware, Washington passed a gas tax specifically designed for road improvements and it was passed and implemented like this, .03 incease each year for 5 years for a total of .15 tax increase by 2015. That is why fuel now costs more in Washington than Oregon and this tax will never go away but is guaranteed to increase since it is already in effect. If this doesn’t stop, everyone will be paying 100% of their income in taxes and not be able to afford their own bills. Additional taxes need to stop and the Government NEEDS TO MANAGE THE MONEY we already pay!!!!!!!!!
If there is a single Washington state resident who agrees with an income tax then they haven’t been here very long and they need to return to the state that they’re running away from for screwing it up with their votes.